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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/its-not-my-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-6715</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said &quot;So yeah they suck and thus they fail as a team.&quot;  I meant to say: So yeah they suck and thus they fail as a team because we feed it to them every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said &#8220;So yeah they suck and thus they fail as a team.&#8221;  I meant to say: So yeah they suck and thus they fail as a team because we feed it to them every day.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/its-not-my-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-6714</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen,

I apologize if my comments were offensive to you.  It was not my intent to get under anyoneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s skin.  I understand your frustration and agree it is your right to express your displeasure.  I just don&#039;t think it is productive.  I thank you all for your support of our team.  All I am saying is the booing may make us feel better, but it surely is not helping our team at any level that I as see.  I started to laugh the other day, I was watching the NJ - NY game minuses the two starting points, and the Knicks were getting booed by the NJ fan and I said to the TV, you&#039;ve got to be kidding me we get booed harder than that in the Garden, then I stopped laughing.  Really wasn&#039;t that funny once I thought about it.  Some of the people in the Knicks organization/team are trying their best.  Like I said itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a team and right now the team is down on their selves.  

I don&#039;t think anyone would deny they have great talent.  What they lack is confidence.  Everyone please stop for a moment (you can tell me what an idiot I am later) and think of where true confidence comes from.  Most will probably say it comes from within, that sound good and may even be true, but I believe it comes from your experiences.  I believe how we nurture some determines or causes an individualÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s differences in behavior/outcome.  I not as smart as many of you but I know if you tell someone they will fail or Ã¢â‚¬Å“you suckÃ¢â‚¬? long enough they will begin to suck and fail.  Everyone will respond differently and at different times but I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think anyone is immune.  So yeah they suck and thus they fail as a team.  

It been my experience that people who have experienced success are confident and confidence breedsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ success, but even the most confident person in the world can be broken.  I think that is a major contributor in torture.  The person being tortured ultimately looses confidence they will survive of endure.  The will has to be broken for it to work.  I&#039;m sorry and I know I&#039;m a minority here but I think fate or misfortune may have broken their confidence but we&#039;ve not allowed it to heal.  There is no good reason with the talent they have that they are not playing better ball.  Throw in bad management, coaching etc, what ever...  A team with the level of talent they have would still make a good go of it.  We&#039;ve seen them show glimpses of their ability this season.  I know you are all tried, I tired too, but they are our team.  

Try and hold on and one day (hopefully soon) our prayers will be answered.  BTW I do claim Christianity but I sometimes (often) fall short.  I appreciate your inputs.  Best Regards Dave (a work in progress) .

Go New York, 
Go New York, 
Knicks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen,</p>
<p>I apologize if my comments were offensive to you.  It was not my intent to get under anyoneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s skin.  I understand your frustration and agree it is your right to express your displeasure.  I just don&#8217;t think it is productive.  I thank you all for your support of our team.  All I am saying is the booing may make us feel better, but it surely is not helping our team at any level that I as see.  I started to laugh the other day, I was watching the NJ &#8211; NY game minuses the two starting points, and the Knicks were getting booed by the NJ fan and I said to the TV, you&#8217;ve got to be kidding me we get booed harder than that in the Garden, then I stopped laughing.  Really wasn&#8217;t that funny once I thought about it.  Some of the people in the Knicks organization/team are trying their best.  Like I said itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a team and right now the team is down on their selves.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone would deny they have great talent.  What they lack is confidence.  Everyone please stop for a moment (you can tell me what an idiot I am later) and think of where true confidence comes from.  Most will probably say it comes from within, that sound good and may even be true, but I believe it comes from your experiences.  I believe how we nurture some determines or causes an individualÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s differences in behavior/outcome.  I not as smart as many of you but I know if you tell someone they will fail or Ã¢â‚¬Å“you suckÃ¢â‚¬? long enough they will begin to suck and fail.  Everyone will respond differently and at different times but I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think anyone is immune.  So yeah they suck and thus they fail as a team.  </p>
<p>It been my experience that people who have experienced success are confident and confidence breedsÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ success, but even the most confident person in the world can be broken.  I think that is a major contributor in torture.  The person being tortured ultimately looses confidence they will survive of endure.  The will has to be broken for it to work.  I&#8217;m sorry and I know I&#8217;m a minority here but I think fate or misfortune may have broken their confidence but we&#8217;ve not allowed it to heal.  There is no good reason with the talent they have that they are not playing better ball.  Throw in bad management, coaching etc, what ever&#8230;  A team with the level of talent they have would still make a good go of it.  We&#8217;ve seen them show glimpses of their ability this season.  I know you are all tried, I tired too, but they are our team.  </p>
<p>Try and hold on and one day (hopefully soon) our prayers will be answered.  BTW I do claim Christianity but I sometimes (often) fall short.  I appreciate your inputs.  Best Regards Dave (a work in progress) .</p>
<p>Go New York, <br />
Go New York, <br />
Knicks!</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I said Chris, I meant Dave.</description>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/its-not-my-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-6702</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and one more thing:

If you look back over this blog, you&#039;ll find that, in the past, I have defended Isaiah, Marbury, Curry, Crawford, and even Steve Francis.  If they get it together, no person will be happier than me.  I started this season with optimism, but 6-14 is cause for concern, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and one more thing:</p>
<p>If you look back over this blog, you&#8217;ll find that, in the past, I have defended Isaiah, Marbury, Curry, Crawford, and even Steve Francis.  If they get it together, no person will be happier than me.  I started this season with optimism, but 6-14 is cause for concern, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ulee,

We are twins separated at birth, because I too Tivo every game, read every article and defend to the death the Knicks as well. But, I can&#039;t do it anymore mannn. I&#039;m beaten down. It&#039;s hard to defend these guys now.

They showed me so many signs last year of improvement and with the addition of Zach and the kids in the summer league; I couldn&#039;t wait for the season to start. But instead I get nothing but drama (Anucha &amp; Marburry/Isiah).
The beat down in Boston, 76ers, etc.. Isiah is now taking a page out of Marburry&#039;s book saying stupid stuff to the media, come on man.

Where do we go from here? If we do fire Isiah, who do we get to clean up this mess? And please don&#039;t tell me Herb. How do we get rid of these contracts?
 
Marrbury 21M\2yrs - Zach 16\4yrs - Eddy 11M\4yrs - Q 9M\3yrs
Jamal 9M\4yrs - Malik 7M\2yrs - James 6M\3yrs - Jefferies 7M\4yrs

What can anyone do with this? Where the only team dumb enough to take these contracts. We can&#039;t trade with our selves. 

Ulee man, I don&#039;t see a light at the end of the tunnel. Can you help me out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ulee,</p>
<p>We are twins separated at birth, because I too Tivo every game, read every article and defend to the death the Knicks as well. But, I can&#8217;t do it anymore mannn. I&#8217;m beaten down. It&#8217;s hard to defend these guys now.</p>
<p>They showed me so many signs last year of improvement and with the addition of Zach and the kids in the summer league; I couldn&#8217;t wait for the season to start. But instead I get nothing but drama (Anucha &#038; Marburry/Isiah).<br />
The beat down in Boston, 76ers, etc.. Isiah is now taking a page out of Marburry&#8217;s book saying stupid stuff to the media, come on man.</p>
<p>Where do we go from here? If we do fire Isiah, who do we get to clean up this mess? And please don&#8217;t tell me Herb. How do we get rid of these contracts?</p>
<p>Marrbury 21M\2yrs &#8211; Zach 16\4yrs &#8211; Eddy 11M\4yrs &#8211; Q 9M\3yrs<br />
Jamal 9M\4yrs &#8211; Malik 7M\2yrs &#8211; James 6M\3yrs &#8211; Jefferies 7M\4yrs</p>
<p>What can anyone do with this? Where the only team dumb enough to take these contracts. We can&#8217;t trade with our selves. </p>
<p>Ulee man, I don&#8217;t see a light at the end of the tunnel. Can you help me out?</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/its-not-my-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-6700</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I agree with Mase.  We&#039;ve been here blogging every week for the last season, all summer, and up until now.  We&#039;re not fair weather fans for thinking that there need to be changes to this team.  I&#039;m glad the fans are booing.  Maybe management will wise up.  What else can fans do?  Alot of people have stayed home.  The Garden used to be sold out every night.  

As to these peoples families, please!  Their families are well taken care of.  I feel sorry for people in the Sudan.

Stephon and Isaiah brought everything on themselves.  Blaming the fans for causing the guys heart attack.  That&#039;s just insulting.  

Which came first the boos or the lousy team?  Again, and I have said this before, this is not just about losing.  It&#039;s about an embarassing disfunctional organization.  It&#039;s about players that don&#039;t play smart and don&#039;t hustle.  It&#039;s about management that&#039;s traded draft picks and put us hopelessly over the salary cap. It&#039;s about a coach that can&#039;t figure out his rotations, and doesn&#039;t seem to understand X&#039;s and O&#039;s. It&#039;s about an owner who doesn&#039;t seem to understand the problem.  Fans are taking it into their own hands because they feel they have to. It&#039;s their right.
 
The media isn&#039;t leading any charge here.  For example, Mike Dougherty might feel the way I do, but he needs to keep a good relationship with these guys.  He can&#039;t rip them like I can.  I came to these conclusions on my own,  with the help of bloggers here and at knickerblogger.com, and Tivo.  

I agree that Ewing was treated unfairly by the media.  He did everything he could for this franchise.  Booing someone for not winning a championship (Ewing) or for getting a max deal (Houston) is unfair.  I love the Yankees but the pressure they put on their players and manager is unfair.

For a non-judgemental christian you make some heavy accusations.  If you give up on a team you are a fairweather fan.  We haven&#039;t stopped watching.  We&#039;d just like to see them split with Philly, I mean, come on man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I agree with Mase.  We&#8217;ve been here blogging every week for the last season, all summer, and up until now.  We&#8217;re not fair weather fans for thinking that there need to be changes to this team.  I&#8217;m glad the fans are booing.  Maybe management will wise up.  What else can fans do?  Alot of people have stayed home.  The Garden used to be sold out every night.  </p>
<p>As to these peoples families, please!  Their families are well taken care of.  I feel sorry for people in the Sudan.</p>
<p>Stephon and Isaiah brought everything on themselves.  Blaming the fans for causing the guys heart attack.  That&#8217;s just insulting.  </p>
<p>Which came first the boos or the lousy team?  Again, and I have said this before, this is not just about losing.  It&#8217;s about an embarassing disfunctional organization.  It&#8217;s about players that don&#8217;t play smart and don&#8217;t hustle.  It&#8217;s about management that&#8217;s traded draft picks and put us hopelessly over the salary cap. It&#8217;s about a coach that can&#8217;t figure out his rotations, and doesn&#8217;t seem to understand X&#8217;s and O&#8217;s. It&#8217;s about an owner who doesn&#8217;t seem to understand the problem.  Fans are taking it into their own hands because they feel they have to. It&#8217;s their right.</p>
<p>The media isn&#8217;t leading any charge here.  For example, Mike Dougherty might feel the way I do, but he needs to keep a good relationship with these guys.  He can&#8217;t rip them like I can.  I came to these conclusions on my own,  with the help of bloggers here and at knickerblogger.com, and Tivo.  </p>
<p>I agree that Ewing was treated unfairly by the media.  He did everything he could for this franchise.  Booing someone for not winning a championship (Ewing) or for getting a max deal (Houston) is unfair.  I love the Yankees but the pressure they put on their players and manager is unfair.</p>
<p>For a non-judgemental christian you make some heavy accusations.  If you give up on a team you are a fairweather fan.  We haven&#8217;t stopped watching.  We&#8217;d just like to see them split with Philly, I mean, come on man!</p>
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		<title>By: Mase in Yo Face</title>
		<link>http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/its-not-my-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-6695</link>
		<dc:creator>Mase in Yo Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAVE,

How long are we supposed to be supportive before we, as fans, are allowed to be frustrated?

It has been over 6 years since the team has finished over .500.  Shoot, I can&#039;t even recall this team being 6 games over .500 in the last several seasons.

I don&#039;t think the &#039;BOOing&#039; is pre-emptive.  We want to cheer, want to root, etc... but when you see lack-luster effort on defense game-in and game-out - well, that is disrespectful to the fans.  

and lest anyone forget, it is still the fans (and foolish Cablevision customers) who are paying their bloated salaries.

All we want is a team that is worth rooting for - and let&#039;s be clear about one thing too - &#039;BOOing&#039; the Knicks is NOT the same as rooting for the other team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAVE,</p>
<p>How long are we supposed to be supportive before we, as fans, are allowed to be frustrated?</p>
<p>It has been over 6 years since the team has finished over .500.  Shoot, I can&#8217;t even recall this team being 6 games over .500 in the last several seasons.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the &#8216;BOOing&#8217; is pre-emptive.  We want to cheer, want to root, etc&#8230; but when you see lack-luster effort on defense game-in and game-out &#8211; well, that is disrespectful to the fans.  </p>
<p>and lest anyone forget, it is still the fans (and foolish Cablevision customers) who are paying their bloated salaries.</p>
<p>All we want is a team that is worth rooting for &#8211; and let&#8217;s be clear about one thing too &#8211; &#8216;BOOing&#8217; the Knicks is NOT the same as rooting for the other team.</p>
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		<title>By: Ulee</title>
		<link>http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/its-not-my-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-6694</link>
		<dc:creator>Ulee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a min Mike, I&#039;m a loyal fan and I do not boo the Knicks. I am not a fair weather fan, and those who are, are not REAL fans. I watch every game (gotta love that TIVO), read most articles and I stand on my soapbox at work and defend them against people who don&#039;t watch the games and do not know the team and only go by what the media is saying. I just think they are cursed. They change players and coaches and still have similar outcomes. But I don&#039;t give up hope and most of my friends and coworker are surprised that I stick behind them, even when they are losing. And I boldly shout out that I am a Knicks fan. I don&#039;t hide it. 
Maybe they need to train and practice harder. They need to go back to the High School and College days where the coaches gave them curfews and were extremely strict. That might help them to focus.
Look at the Celtics. They did a complete 360. So can the Knicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a min Mike, I&#8217;m a loyal fan and I do not boo the Knicks. I am not a fair weather fan, and those who are, are not REAL fans. I watch every game (gotta love that TIVO), read most articles and I stand on my soapbox at work and defend them against people who don&#8217;t watch the games and do not know the team and only go by what the media is saying. I just think they are cursed. They change players and coaches and still have similar outcomes. But I don&#8217;t give up hope and most of my friends and coworker are surprised that I stick behind them, even when they are losing. And I boldly shout out that I am a Knicks fan. I don&#8217;t hide it. <br />
Maybe they need to train and practice harder. They need to go back to the High School and College days where the coaches gave them curfews and were extremely strict. That might help them to focus.<br />
Look at the Celtics. They did a complete 360. So can the Knicks.</p>
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		<title>By: whoa</title>
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		<dc:creator>whoa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a lost cause. They are better off losing until Dolan finally comes to terms with the disaster that Mills and Isiah have created.</description>
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		<title>By: DAVE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mike for that confirmation!  I weep for those men who suit up each night and their families.  Everybody says their hearts go out to Steph and his family.  I say you who boo and send condolences are hypocrites.  One of the last things that mans father heard was his son being booed by the city he loves.  It probably (and I don&#039;t say this lightly) was more than his heart could stand.  I am a Christian and can&#039;t hate but I am profoundly sad at our cowardice as fans.  Each guy out there on the floor had a family.  Kids, wives, mothers sisters, brothers.  How would you feel if it were you.  And if your thinking it could happen, remember it&#039;s a team.  One guy tries to turn it around by him self and they will report he was selfish or didn&#039;t trust his team mates.  Bottom line:  You can boo all your want but your team will still be losers.  Cheer and support? Well I guess we&#039;ll never know will we, cause we&#039;re &quot;tough smart NY (fair weather) fans&quot;.


BIP132</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike for that confirmation!  I weep for those men who suit up each night and their families.  Everybody says their hearts go out to Steph and his family.  I say you who boo and send condolences are hypocrites.  One of the last things that mans father heard was his son being booed by the city he loves.  It probably (and I don&#8217;t say this lightly) was more than his heart could stand.  I am a Christian and can&#8217;t hate but I am profoundly sad at our cowardice as fans.  Each guy out there on the floor had a family.  Kids, wives, mothers sisters, brothers.  How would you feel if it were you.  And if your thinking it could happen, remember it&#8217;s a team.  One guy tries to turn it around by him self and they will report he was selfish or didn&#8217;t trust his team mates.  Bottom line:  You can boo all your want but your team will still be losers.  Cheer and support? Well I guess we&#8217;ll never know will we, cause we&#8217;re &#8220;tough smart NY (fair weather) fans&#8221;.</p>
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