Comments on: Thomas lectures both sides of the aisle http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/ The unauthorized Knicks blog from Journal News beat writer Mike Dougherty Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:32:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.5 By: George http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6692 George Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:10:49 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6692 WTF are you talking about? Who cares about how much money he has? Who cares about past achievements? What has he done here? He's tarnished his legacy, that's all. He's done nothing else but tarnish his legacy. If you still love Isiah, good for you. But don't tell me he's good because he has money and a ring as a player. That means nothing to me. WTF are you talking about? Who cares about how much money he has? Who cares about past achievements? What has he done here? He’s tarnished his legacy, that’s all. He’s done nothing else but tarnish his legacy. If you still love Isiah, good for you. But don’t tell me he’s good because he has money and a ring as a player. That means nothing to me.

]]> By: DAVE http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6689 DAVE Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:32:07 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6689 George, No disrespect intended but Isiah is a millionaire with more trophies than most could ever dream (team) about. I'm thinking you must be Mr. Washington (a founding father) if you can honestly say, "This man is an %100 loser and a disgrace to the entire NBA." I'm sure he drives his Bentley home to his mansion on a hill and worries about what average people like you and I say. Like I said I'm not trying to pick a fight but I don't think your comment are fair or accurate. George,

No disrespect intended but Isiah is a millionaire with more trophies than most could ever dream (team) about. I’m thinking you must be Mr. Washington (a founding father) if you can honestly say,

“This man is an %100 loser and a disgrace to the entire NBA.”

I’m sure he drives his Bentley home to his mansion on a hill and worries about what average people like you and I say. Like I said I’m not trying to pick a fight but I don’t think your comment are fair or accurate.

]]> By: DAVE http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6688 DAVE Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:30:49 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6688 George, No disrespect intended by Isiah is a millionaire with more trophies than most could ever dream (team) about. I'm thinking you must be Mr. Washington (a founding father) if you can honestly say, "This man is an %100 loser and a disgrace to the entire NBA." I'm sure he drives his Bentley home to his mansion on a hill and worries about average people like you and I say. Like I said I'm not trying to pick a fight but I don't think your comment are fair or accurate. George,

No disrespect intended by Isiah is a millionaire with more trophies than most could ever dream (team) about. I’m thinking you must be Mr. Washington (a founding father) if you can honestly say,

“This man is an %100 loser and a disgrace to the entire NBA.”

I’m sure he drives his Bentley home to his mansion on a hill and worries about average people like you and I say. Like I said I’m not trying to pick a fight but I don’t think your comment are fair or accurate.

]]> By: DAVE http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6686 DAVE Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:04:12 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6686 I agree with Isiah. When you get booed harder at home than you do on the road, it makes you second guess everything. Okay they are terrible, but either love and support them or say home and watch the Mavs. If you need to go to a game go to Jersey. If you think booing makes a team play better, I think you’re mistaken. I've been a fan long time and I never boo. Last night they didn't get any calls. I saw Jeffries get fouled and knocked around where the top of his body was moving in one direction and the bottom in another and still no call, but on the other end Dirk gets a call on the next play. People have been booing for months and the results are no better. Now Zach, and David are starting to show the effects of the boos. How about we boo the refs for not calling the fouls for our guys. They have no pressure to call it fairly. How about showing hostilities to the other teams when they come in our house? It's easy to kick your team when they are down. But it takes real courage to stand by them when they are doing as bad as our guys are. I can only imagine how Spike Lee felt when Reggie Miller rubbed his nose in it and the fans blamed him for the loss. That's just stupid. Spike didn't do anything wrong. Do we have to be afraid to root for our guys, to try and distract the opposing players? Then put away the thunder stick and stop whistling. Reggie is a great player and fortune fell his way that day. Our guys are gun shy now. I saw in the one report where Curry was afraid to make comments about an up coming opponents’ center. He wouldn't be afraid if we supported him and the team. Give them a break until the all star competition from the boo's and see if it helps. I pray you do and I pray it does. I also pray for all you true fans. I pray for all of you who just come here to taunt us (no team stays on top or bottom forever). And I pray for my Knicks from the Owners to the towel boys. BTW If you think the otter teams and their coaches are giggling and laughing at the Knicks (solely), you're wrong, they are laughing at the fans who keep their feet on the Knicks necks. You boo'er keep them down. Be for real! If you want to show your dissatisfaction, stay away. Money talk boo crap walks in and pays for a ticket. Highest money earning team in the NBA (according to Forbes). I know I gonna get lit up for my comments but I LOVE my team and gladly so go ahead and get your hate on. Seem that's what you do best. I may be foolish by many of your accounts, but I am surely no coward! I STAND WITH THE NEW YOUR KNICKS. FOR LIFE! I agree with Isiah. When you get booed harder at home than you do on the road, it makes you second guess everything. Okay they are terrible, but either love and support them or say home and watch the Mavs. If you need to go to a game go to Jersey. If you think booing makes a team play better, I think you’re mistaken. I’ve been a fan long time and I never boo. Last night they didn’t get any calls. I saw Jeffries get fouled and knocked around where the top of his body was moving in one direction and the bottom in another and still no call, but on the other end Dirk gets a call on the next play. People have been booing for months and the results are no better. Now Zach, and David are starting to show the effects of the boos.

How about we boo the refs for not calling the fouls for our guys. They have no pressure to call it fairly. How about showing hostilities to the other teams when they come in our house? It’s easy to kick your team when they are down. But it takes real courage to stand by them when they are doing as bad as our guys are. I can only imagine how Spike Lee felt when Reggie Miller rubbed his nose in it and the fans blamed him for the loss. That’s just stupid. Spike didn’t do anything wrong. Do we have to be afraid to root for our guys, to try and distract the opposing players? Then put away the thunder stick and stop whistling. Reggie is a great player and fortune fell his way that day. Our guys are gun shy now. I saw in the one report where Curry was afraid to make comments about an up coming opponents’ center. He wouldn’t be afraid if we supported him and the team. Give them a break until the all star competition from the boo’s and see if it helps. I pray you do and I pray it does. I also pray for all you true fans. I pray for all of you who just come here to taunt us (no team stays on top or bottom forever). And I pray for my Knicks from the Owners to the towel boys.

BTW If you think the otter teams and their coaches are giggling and laughing at the Knicks (solely), you’re wrong, they are laughing at the fans who keep their feet on the Knicks necks. You boo’er keep them down. Be for real! If you want to show your dissatisfaction, stay away. Money talk boo crap walks in and pays for a ticket. Highest money earning team in the NBA (according to Forbes).

I know I gonna get lit up for my comments but I LOVE my team and gladly so go ahead and get your hate on. Seem that’s what you do best. I may be foolish by many of your accounts, but I am surely no coward! I STAND WITH THE NEW YOUR KNICKS. FOR LIFE!

]]> By: JohnDoe http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6683 JohnDoe Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:28:10 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6683 It is actually smart of Isiah to put the focus on himself. The team sucks and he can take the heat. The only other thing he seems to do well is draft some interesting players. All his trades are a disaster and the his team sucks in so many ways. The mess is the fault of ownership and unfortunately will not get better until the team gets sold. Van Gundy had it right. He quit when he realized he had no where to go. We had a coach two years ago who coached thru the press which is the wrong thing to do, but tried to get rid of the cancers on this team starting with the legend in his own mind Starbury. Of course our GM backed the players and the coach lost. So the current coach can lie in the bed he made. It is a terrible team with some interesting young talent run by a GM who has Attention Deficit Disorder. It is actually smart of Isiah to put the focus on himself. The team sucks and he can take the heat. The only other thing he seems to do well is draft some interesting players.

All his trades are a disaster and the his team sucks in so many ways. The mess is the fault of ownership and unfortunately will not get better until the team gets sold. Van Gundy had it right. He quit when he realized he had no where to go.

We had a coach two years ago who coached thru the press which is the wrong thing to do, but tried to get rid of the cancers on this team starting with the legend in his own mind Starbury. Of course our GM backed the players and the coach lost. So the current coach can lie in the bed he made. It is a terrible team with some interesting young talent run by a GM who has Attention Deficit Disorder.

]]> By: dan http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6681 dan Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:04:34 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6681 Kwame, Throw out the Mavs game. We are obviously no match for them... at home. However, the two losses to the Sixers is really beyond belief. I know Steph is down right now, so, by the way, why was he even in Philly and if he's in Philly, why does he only play 13 minutes. I mean, if you are not ready, just stay home. It's a wierd decision. But I digress. I'm sorry if Eddy Curry's feelings are hurt that we're angry that he averages fewer rebounds than Jason Kidd, but please, box someone out and we'll stop booing, maybe. One of the reasons these guys are getting booed is that Isaiah hurt the team by getting many of them. That's obvious with regard to Mr. Curry. 23 and 33 wins man, come on! I think the fans could take losing if it was Lee and Balkman and Robinson out there. They would be hustling and likeable and maybe a player short of competing, but this isn't really a rebuilding team is it? Crawford, Curry, Marbury, Randolph... these guys were brought in to compete now, ergo, BOOOOO! Kwame,

Throw out the Mavs game. We are obviously no match for them… at home. However, the two losses to the Sixers is really beyond belief. I know Steph is down right now, so, by the way, why was he even in Philly and if he’s in Philly, why does he only play 13 minutes. I mean, if you are not ready, just stay home. It’s a wierd decision. But I digress. I’m sorry if Eddy Curry’s feelings are hurt that we’re angry that he averages fewer rebounds than Jason Kidd, but please, box someone out and we’ll stop booing, maybe.

One of the reasons these guys are getting booed is that Isaiah hurt the team by getting many of them. That’s obvious with regard to Mr. Curry. 23 and 33 wins man, come on! I think the fans could take losing if it was Lee and Balkman and Robinson out there. They would be hustling and likeable and maybe a player short of competing, but this isn’t really a rebuilding team is it? Crawford, Curry, Marbury, Randolph… these guys were brought in to compete now, ergo, BOOOOO!

]]> By: dan http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6679 dan Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:46:45 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6679 Small correction: To Isaiah's credit he only hired 4 coaches, including himself, I think. He inherited Chaney, who he disrespected on Letterman. Mike, if you get a chance please, please ask David Stern if he really counciled MSG to settle. That would be ineteresting to find out. This court case should close the book on this guy's career with the team. Sometimes you would rather settle something quietly and not let it get out, but this is different. If he really thinks he's innocent why would he settle? It's not like he was going to save the Knicks money by doing it. They settled for the same as the punitive damages award. It was a civil trial, he was not looking at hard time, the money was not even going to come from out of his pocket. Why not fight if you're "innocent". This guy is not only a liar, he's a bad one. Small correction: To Isaiah’s credit he only hired 4 coaches, including himself, I think. He inherited Chaney, who he disrespected on Letterman.

Mike, if you get a chance please, please ask David Stern if he really counciled MSG to settle. That would be ineteresting to find out.

This court case should close the book on this guy’s career with the team. Sometimes you would rather settle something quietly and not let it get out, but this is different. If he really thinks he’s innocent why would he settle? It’s not like he was going to save the Knicks money by doing it. They settled for the same as the punitive damages award. It was a civil trial, he was not looking at hard time, the money was not even going to come from out of his pocket. Why not fight if you’re “innocent”. This guy is not only a liar, he’s a bad one.

]]> By: Kwame http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6678 Kwame Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:34:57 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6678 I am sick of all of this . No other team has to play while being booed at home. I don't like the state of the Knicks myself. However let's make sense,making a player angry or apprehensive, will not get us what we want as Knick fans. The beat writers need to stop encouraging the FIRE ISIAH CHANT'S and the BOOING .If your home is on fire would pour gasoline on it because you don't like? No . The players have expressed that they don't like the booing so try to respect them too. I don't have to boo my team and show the world what assholes we are in new York. Losing is bad enough. Dolan who owns the team, has said he is not going to fire Isiah, so shut up the fire Isiah stuff. He may not be the best coach. I quess what I am saying is show wome self respect. We are not the only team that gets blown out. But we are the only fans who react like a wild west lynch mob. I am sick of all of this . No other team has to play while being booed at home. I don’t like the state of the Knicks myself. However let’s make sense,making a player angry or apprehensive, will not get us what we want as Knick fans. The beat writers need to stop encouraging the FIRE ISIAH CHANT’S and the BOOING .If your home is on fire would pour gasoline on it because you don’t like? No . The players have expressed that they don’t like the booing so try to respect them too. I don’t have to boo my team and show the world what assholes we are in new York. Losing is bad enough. Dolan who owns the team, has said he is not going to fire Isiah, so shut up the fire Isiah stuff. He may not be the best coach. I quess what I am saying is show wome self respect. We are not the only team that gets blown out. But we are the only fans who react like a wild west lynch mob.

]]> By: ant http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6676 ant Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:09:14 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6676 Isiah has had plenty of time to show the fans some progress. Trading for Francis. Trading for Curry. Trading for Marbury. Signing Jeffries, James and even Q whose starting to look like a shadow of his former self. He's done ok in drafts but Bynum not Frye was the right pick. I can live with Balkman. But it also the reported trades Isiah has passed up...Not willing to part with Crawford for Carter and withholding Balkman for Artest...and this is just the GM side. As a coach Isiah has lost this team. Great inside scoring is easily handled by teams with double teams and Knicks lack the shooters to compliment their strong post play and both Zach and Curry do nothing to help interior defense. Poorly constructed team, lack of chemistry and trust, and poor effort. It's rough going for Knick fans. Isiah has had plenty of time to show the fans some progress. Trading for Francis. Trading for Curry. Trading for Marbury. Signing Jeffries, James and even Q whose starting to look like a shadow of his former self. He’s done ok in drafts but Bynum not Frye was the right pick. I can live with Balkman.

But it also the reported trades Isiah has passed up…Not willing to part with Crawford for Carter and withholding Balkman for Artest…and this is just the GM side.

As a coach Isiah has lost this team. Great inside scoring is easily handled by teams with double teams and Knicks lack the shooters to compliment their strong post play and both Zach and Curry do nothing to help interior defense.

Poorly constructed team, lack of chemistry and trust, and poor effort. It’s rough going for Knick fans.

]]> By: Pat G http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6674 Pat G Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:50:03 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2007/12/11/thomas-lectures-both-sides-of-the-aisle/#comment-6674 Mike, you asked Isiah that question? His answer was absolutely hysterical, and then he repeated pretty much the same thing when you tried to clarify. Mike, you asked Isiah that question? His answer was absolutely hysterical, and then he repeated pretty much the same thing when you tried to clarify.

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