Comments on: The long goodbye http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/ The unauthorized Knicks blog from Journal News beat writer Mike Dougherty Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:50:36 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JohnDoe http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9028 JohnDoe Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:14:35 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9028 It will be a good day when Starbury is no longer part of the organization. I said this last year and had many call me an idiot. Yes he has talent and can score, but is a terrible point guard. Perhaps they can get something for him. Someone may be stupid enough to take him. Perhaps Zeke will get a GM job someplace we can trade him to. This team is old and gimpy filled with players who do not like to play D. It is a new day and hopefully the new boys in town have the guts to clean house. There are useful players here, but all can go if need be. It will be a good day when Starbury is no longer part of the organization. I said this last year and had many call me an idiot.

Yes he has talent and can score, but is a terrible point guard. Perhaps they can get something for him. Someone may be stupid enough to take him. Perhaps Zeke will get a GM job someplace we can trade him to.

This team is old and gimpy filled with players who do not like to play D.

It is a new day and hopefully the new boys in town have the guts to clean house. There are useful players here, but all can go if need be.

]]> By: AR http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9027 AR Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:48:54 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9027 Ultimately, Its going down to the best defensive player that can play up and down the court. Don't be shocked if D'Antoni finds the same type of players he had in Phx to rn his new attack. I like that he may drop Gallo to the Shooting Guard at times. He may play Wilson Chandler because of his athleticism. Jamal is going to have to prove that he become a consistent scorer again. If not then the Knicks will live with Duhon and Gallo as their sharp shooters this year. Lee, Balkman, and Nate are energy guys. I see the two of the three would stay. Lee will traded if there is a trade that will not kill cap and give us a legitamate shot at winning allot of games this year. Ultimately, Its going down to the best defensive player that can play up and down the court. Don’t be shocked if D’Antoni finds the same type of players he had in Phx to rn his new attack. I like that he may drop Gallo to the Shooting Guard at times. He may play Wilson Chandler because of his athleticism. Jamal is going to have to prove that he become a consistent scorer again. If not then the Knicks will live with Duhon and Gallo as their sharp shooters this year. Lee, Balkman, and Nate are energy guys. I see the two of the three would stay. Lee will traded if there is a trade that will not kill cap and give us a legitamate shot at winning allot of games this year.

]]> By: edubbs http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9026 edubbs Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:38:32 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9026 Marbury has the worst body to brain ratio in the history of the NBA. Talk about a guy who had all the gifts physically.. Strong, explosive, fast, quick, handle, jump shot, ability to finish, wrap around passes, you name it he could do it. When it came to basketball IQ, he flunked every damn time. Plus he has an ego that could humble Michael Jordan. I've tried time and time again to like Stephon but he always was 1 step foward, 2 steps back. Marbury has the worst body to brain ratio in the history of the NBA. Talk about a guy who had all the gifts physically.. Strong, explosive, fast, quick, handle, jump shot, ability to finish, wrap around passes, you name it he could do it. When it came to basketball IQ, he flunked every damn time. Plus he has an ego that could humble Michael Jordan.

I’ve tried time and time again to like Stephon but he always was 1 step foward, 2 steps back.

]]> By: BryanK http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9025 BryanK Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:09:36 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9025 I think the James idea is a pipedream, the deal he got was ridiculous, I can't see anyone touching that. Thanks Isiah!!! I think the James idea is a pipedream, the deal he got was ridiculous, I can’t see anyone touching that.

Thanks Isiah!!!

]]> By: Erik Sec. 309 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9024 Erik Sec. 309 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:33:47 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9024 Marbury is a disaster. If we can finish this season with him, then his contract comes off the books and the franchise can start to move on. I'm also hoping that the Knicks can pull off a Jerome James for a bag of balls trade. Marbury is a disaster. If we can finish this season with him, then his contract comes off the books and the franchise can start to move on. I’m also hoping that the Knicks can pull off a Jerome James for a bag of balls trade.

]]> By: torres http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9023 torres Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:27:39 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9023 I wish we'd wait until training camp to see if it's worth buying out Marbury. After not having played much at all last season, I'm sure he doesn't have a lot of wear and tear and can most likely be very productive next season. For all his faults, Marbury has always shot a better percentage from the field than Crawford. I wonder if the Knicks would be well served starting Duhon at the point and Marbury at the 2-guard spot. It's definitely a tough call because Crawford just came off a season of averaging 21 ppg. After all these seasons, I still want to see how good a pairing of Marbury and Crawford can be at the 1 and 2. They've never been able to play a full 82 game season together, one of them has either gotten an injury or has had other issues to deal with. A lot of us always felt that the one thing holding Marbury and Crawford back was having a decent pass-first point guard backing them up to take the pressure off. Now we finally got one, but it feels like the move was made two years late. I wish we’d wait until training camp to see if it’s worth buying out Marbury. After not having played much at all last season, I’m sure he doesn’t have a lot of wear and tear and can most likely be very productive next season.

For all his faults, Marbury has always shot a better percentage from the field than Crawford. I wonder if the Knicks would be well served starting Duhon at the point and Marbury at the 2-guard spot. It’s definitely a tough call because Crawford just came off a season of averaging 21 ppg. After all these seasons, I still want to see how good a pairing of Marbury and Crawford can be at the 1 and 2. They’ve never been able to play a full 82 game season together, one of them has either gotten an injury or has had other issues to deal with.

A lot of us always felt that the one thing holding Marbury and Crawford back was having a decent pass-first point guard backing them up to take the pressure off. Now we finally got one, but it feels like the move was made two years late.

]]> By: Al http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9022 Al Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:43:19 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9022 Its a shame that such a talented player like Marbury is such a headcase that he has ruined his own career. I will be glad when they turn the page. Maybe they can trade him for an expiring with 2 years & keep the '10 plan in tact. Any ideas of big contracts coming of the books in '10? I can't see any team doing an expiring for expiring...maybe Rasheed but they don't need a disgruntled point. How about Miami? Its a shame that such a talented player like Marbury is such a headcase that he has ruined his own career. I will be glad when they turn the page. Maybe they can trade him for an expiring with 2 years & keep the ‘10 plan in tact. Any ideas of big contracts coming of the books in ‘10? I can’t see any team doing an expiring for expiring…maybe Rasheed but they don’t need a disgruntled point. How about Miami?

]]> By: bob in dc http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9021 bob in dc Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:04:54 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9021 I like lee too. He will want a 10m p year contract extension though and the knicks mau be unwilling to do it bc of trying to get under the cap. The knock on him is that he does not have enough offense in D's system. But he is my favorite player for all that he brings. I like lee too. He will want a 10m p year contract extension though and the knicks mau be unwilling to do it bc of trying to get under the cap. The knock on him is that he does not have enough offense in D’s system. But he is my favorite player for all that he brings.

]]> By: BryanK http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/comment-page-1/#comment-9020 BryanK Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:03:11 +0000 http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2008/07/05/the-long-goodbye/#comment-9020 I really hope they don't move Lee. Is there really any situation where it makes sense to move a solid young guy like that? I really hope they don’t move Lee. Is there really any situation where it makes sense to move a solid young guy like that?

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